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Busy but Not Fruitful? Why You Avoid the Work That Matters
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You can spend an entire day answering emails, solving problems and getting things done, yet still avoid the one thing that could make a real difference. The important decision remains unmade. The difficult conversation hasn't happened. The work that matters is still unfinished.
What if your busyness is actually disguising avoidance?
In this episode of Lead To Excel Podcast, Maureen Chiana brings together neuroscience, emotional intelligence and Scripture to explore why we sometimes choose familiar activities over meaningful priorities, how busyness can become a form of procrastination, and what Nehemiah teaches us about protecting our attention.
Inspired by Day 238, Busy vs Productive, from Rewire Your Brain with Neuroscience and Scripture Every Day, this episode challenges you to ask: What important work am I avoiding, and what action will I take today?
Because being busy is not the same as being fruitful. What matters is what your actions actually produce.
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When Busyness Hides Procrastination
SpeakerHello there, I am so pleased you can join me in this Podcast today. Let's get into it. There's a form of procrastination that does not look like procrastination. In fact, it can make you look incredibly hardworking. You answer the emails, return the messages, organize the files, research the idea, update the spreadsheet, tidy the desk, attend the meetings, help somebody else, make another list, and by the end of the day, you are exhausted. You've been busy for hours, but the one thing that could genuinely move something forward is still untouched. Does that sound familiar? The proposal is still unwritten, the application is still sitting there, the difficult conversation has still not happened, the strategy is still in your head. The chapter is still unfinished, the decision is still waiting. And because you've worked all day, it does not feel like procrastination. That's what actually makes it so dangerous. Because sometimes procrastination looks like doing many useful things instead of the things that actually matters
Busy, Productive or Fruitful?
Speakermost. And I want to give you three distinctions right at the beginning. Busy measures activity, productive measures output. Fruitful asks, what did this activity actually produce? Because you can still be very busy, very efficient, and still be avoiding the work that could change something. Hello and welcome to Lead To Excel Podcast. I'm Maureen Chiana. I'm a neuroleadership facilitator, neurocoach, and emotional intelligence specialist. And my work brings together neuroscience, neuroplasticity, emotional intelligence, and scripture to help us understand what is really driving our thoughts, emotions, decisions, and behavior. Today's episode comes directly from day 238 of my book, Rewire Your Brain, with Neuroscience and Scripture every day. So if you don't have a copy, I'll leave a link in the description. You can get it from mindsight.com and Amazon or wherever you get your books from. And the accompanying workbook is what I've just released. And that is the same 366 days daily guide that takes you through setting goals, understanding thoughts, and just linking neuroscience, emotional intelligence, and scripture together every single day. So let's continue. So today, this episode comes from day 238. And I'm just gonna have it open here. And day 238 says busy versus productive, avoiding productive procrastination. And when I look at this day, I think this matters because we live in a culture that often rewards visible busyness. If your diary is full, you must be important. If you're always responding, you must be productive. If you're exhausted, you must be hardworking or you must be working really hard. But hard work and meaningful progress are not automatically the same thing. So today I want us to go deep and go beneath the to-do list. Because sometimes the problem is actually not poor time management, which a lot of times people think it is. Sometimes the real issue is what is my brain being rewarded for? And what emotion am I avoiding by doing
A Full Day Without Meaningful Progress
Speakersomething easier? Imagine this. You have an important proposal to write. You know it matters. You sit down at 9 o'clock, but before you begin the thought setting, you start thinking, let me just clear these emails first. 30 minutes later, you notice a document that needs correcting. Then you remember you should look at a competitor's website. That leads to some research. Then somebody messages you. You respond. Then you think actually I should organize these notes before I start. Then it's lunchtime. After lunch, you tell yourself I'll start properly this afternoon. But first I'll just get these smaller things out of the way. Five o'clock arrives, you have completed twelve tasks and the proposal is still blank. Now here's the interesting part. You genuinely worked. You were not sitting on the sofa doing nothing or scrolling through social media. So you can tell yourself I've had such a productive day, but somewhere inside you know the truth. You've worked around the important task. You did not work on it. That is productive
Why Quick Wins Feel Rewarding
Speakerprocrastination. Now let's look at what may be happening in the brain. A smaller, clearly defined task often has several things going for it. It's predictable, the effort is manageable, the outcome is clear, and the feedback is immediate. Email answered, done. Invoice sent done. File renamed, done. Desk organized, done. Your brain receives clear evidence of completion. Dopamine is involved in motivation, learning, reward, prediction, and the pursuit of outcomes. So I don't want to reduce dopamine to the popular idea that it's simply a feel-good chemical. But immediate feedback matters. Completion can feel satisfying. Now compare that with the significant task. Write the proposal. There may be no immediate reward. It could take three hours. You don't know whether the client will even say yes. You may have to think deeply. You may not know where to begin. Or you may have to tolerate uncertainty. And perhaps the task makes you feel something you would rather not feel. So your brain is faced with two options. One gives quick completion, the other requires effort, uncertainty, and delayed and delayed reward. Which one suddenly looks more attractive? That's the line I want you to remember. Your brain can reward completion without asking whether you have completed what was important. And sometimes the task is not actually the thing
The Emotions Behind Avoidance
Speakerthat you're avoiding. And this is where emotional intelligence takes us deeper. Sometimes you're not actually avoiding the task, you're avoiding the emotion attached to the task. The proposal may carry the possibility of rejection. The book may carry the possibility of criticism. The application may carry the possibility that somebody says no. That difficult conversation may carry conflict. Looking at the finances might create anxiety. Finishing that project may mean it has to leave your hands, and now somebody can judge you. So when you move to an easier task, something happens emotionally, you get relief for a moment. You do not have to feel the discomfort that is attached to the important task. And relief is powerful. Your brain can learn when I move away from this uncomfortable task, I feel better. So next time the discomfort appears, move away again. Check emails. Do some research. Organize, scroll, help someone, make another cup of tea or coffee. Just do something that allows you to feel responsible without actually feeling exposed. And this is why procrastination can become an emotional regulation strategy. Not a very useful one, but a strategy nonetheless. You're regulating discomfort by changing tasks. The question is actually not just what am I doing? This is why emotional intelligence actually asks a better question. So not only what am I doing? But asking what am I feeling when I stop doing the important thing? Fear, overwhelm? Boredom? Uncertainty? Perfectionism? Self doubt? Possible rejection? The pressure of probably being evaluated? Because if I misdiagnose an emotional problem as a scheduling problem, I can keep buying planners, downloading productivity apps, reorganizing my calendar and still keep avoiding the same work. The problem was never the diary, the problem was the
When Preparation Becomes Procrastination
Speakerdiscomfort. This is something I see repeatedly. Capable people can become very sophisticated procrastinators because they know how to make avoidance look productive. They research, they prepare, they improve, they plan, they study, and they refine. And all of those things can be quite valuable, but sometimes preparation quietly crosses a line. You're no longer preparing to do the work, preparing has become the substitute for actually doing the work. More information, one more course, one more edit, one more conversation, one more version. And underneath it may be a fear that sounds like, if I keep preparing, I do not yet have to be evaluated. Does that sound familiar? And this is why you have to be able to ask yourself, is this task genuinely necessary or is it helping me avoid emotional exposure? And this is where neuroplasticity really becomes practical. So your brain learns from repeated experience. If every time a difficult task creates discomfort, you move towards something easier and immediately you feel relief. That pattern can become increasingly familiar. Difficult work appears avoid relief. Eventually, you may say, I work better under pressure. But sometimes what that really means is I wait until the deadline becomes more comfortable than the task. And then suddenly you can do in three hours what you've been avoiding for three weeks. The question is why? Because the emotional equation changed. Now the pain of not acting is greater than the discomfort of acting. But imagine if we did not need a crisis before we could access our focus. Imagine learning instead. Discomfort does not mean stop. Uncertainty does not mean avoid. I can stay with the meaningful task long enough to make progress. That is a pattern
Work Your Land: Proverbs 12:11
Speakerworth practicing. So day two hundred and thirty eight brings us to Proverbs twelve eleven. And it says Whoever works his land will have plenty of bread, but he who follows worthless pursuits lacks sense. I love the simplicity of that image. Work your land. There is a land in front of you, your responsibilities, your calling, your health, your relationships, your business, your ideas, your development, the assignment that is yours to do. But it is remarkably easy to spend the day everywhere except our own field, looking at what somebody else is building, comparing ourselves, watching, scrolling, researching other people's work, responding to everybody else's priorities. And sometimes we call it research. But there comes a point when studying somebody else's field becomes a way of avoiding our own. So work your land. Because busy is not the same as fruitful. And this is where I want to bring it into the idea of fruit because scripture repeatedly uses fruit as a measure of what a life produces. Jesus says in John 15 that when we remain in Him, we bear fruit. Fruit is different from activity. Leaves can make a tree look impressive, but fruit tells you what the tree is actually producing. And sometimes our lives have a lot of leaves, meetings, emails, appointments, tasks, notifications, calls, activity everywhere. But the question is, where is the fruit? Now I'm not reducing fruitfulness to achievement. No. Prayer can be fruitful. Rest can be fruitful. A difficult conversation can be fruitful. Time with your family can be fruitful. Thinking deeply can be fruitful. Recovery can be fruitful. Saying no can also be fruitful. Fruitfulness is not how much can I squeeze into my life. Fruitfulness actually asks the question, am I giving my energy to what actually matters in this
Nehemiah: Protect the Work That Matters
Speakerseason? And there is one biblical story I think captures this brilliantly. Nehemiah is rebuilding the wall of Jerusalem. The work matters. And while he's building, people repeatedly try to pull him away from it. They want him to come down, meet them, engage with them, respond. And Nehemiah says, I am carrying on a great project and cannot go down. I cannot come down. That is powerful. Because Nehemiah understands something many people forget. Not everything that wants your attention deserves your attention. Some things are invitations. Some things are distractions. And wisdom is knowing the difference. So let me ask you, what keeps bringing you down from your wall? Is it your phone? Is it email? Is it social media? Is it people who expect immediate access to you? Your need to respond to everything? Perfectionism? Fear of finishing? Is it constant research? Maybe someone else's emergency? Your own discomfort possibly? What is it? What repeatedly gets your best attention while the work you say matters receives whatever is left? This is particularly important now because responsiveness can create the illusion of productivity. You reply immediately, you answer immediately, you react immediately, and people may even praise you for it. But every incoming request is somebody else's decision about what deserves your attention. So if you never decide what deserves your attention, the world will literally decide for you. And switching repeatedly between messages, documents, emails, notification carries a cognitive cost because your attention has to orientate each time so that you can spend hours working without giving your most meaningful task a sustained period of focused thoughts. And sometimes the most fruitful thing that you can do is become temporarily unavailable, and that's
Interrupting the Urge to Escape
Speakerokay. Here is where I want you to practice emotional intelligence in real time. You sit down to do the important work. Five minutes later you suddenly feel that you should check email. Stop and ask, Why now? That helps actually pass your brain. You begin writing, you get stuck. Suddenly reorganizing your desk seems urgent. Ask the question why now? You start preparing the proposal. A little anxiety appears. You reach for your phone. Why now? The moment that your attention tries to escape. Then ask, what just happened inside me? That is self-awareness. What am I feeling? That is emotional literacy. Do I have to obey this urge? That is self-regulation. What matters more than the relief I would get from escaping this task? That is intentional choice. Then return to the work. Not because the discomfort has disappeared, but because discomfort no longer gets to make the decision. So I want to give you one simple practice. Before you open yourself up to somebody else's priorities, identify the one meaningful task that deserves your best attention. Not ten, like I always say, one. Then work on that before you disappear into low-value activity. So it could be write the page, make the call, finish the proposal you've been putting off, make the decision, have the conversation, submit the application, update your LinkedIn profile, do the analysis, book that coaching call, build the plan, produce some fruit before the leaves take over. Day 238 asks you two very direct questions. How often
Day 238: Book and Workbook Practice
Speakerdo I fill my time with non-essential tasks to avoid more important ones? And what is the most important task I can focus on today to truly move me forward? Then the exercise on that day asks you to list three tasks that you often use as productive distractions and choose one important task to complete before anything else. So I want you to go one step deeper for more productive distraction. Ask, what feeling does this task help me avoid? And I'm going to look into day 238 in the workbook to tell you the questions we have. The first one is in fact, it actually gives a framework to walk through. But I'll focus on the questions for that day in the workbook. What productive distraction will I stop using to avoid the important work? Name the task that keeps you busy but does not move the goal forward. Then the second question is what high priority task will I complete before lower priority tasks, before lower priority tasks today. Choose the one task that creates the most meaningful progress. So maybe your list looks something like checking email, what does it help me avoid? Starting the difficult proposal. Why am I avoiding the proposal? Fear that it will not look good enough. Researching endlessly. What does it help me avoid? Publishing. Why am I avoiding publishing? Because once it's public, I can be judged. Helping everybody else. What does it help me avoid? My own priorities. Why? Because working on my own goal means taking responsibility for whether it succeeds. Now we're no longer simply managing time here. We're actually understanding behavior. So tomorrow morning, before the inbox, before
Put Your Most Important Task First
Speakerthe messages, before social media, before everybody else's request arrive, ask yourself, what is the one piece of meaningful work that would make today genuinely fruitful? Then protect a block of time for it. And when you feel the urge to escape, do not immediately obey the urge. Just notice it. Name the emotion. Stay with the discomfort. Return to the task. You're teaching yourself I can do meaningful work without waiting until it feels easy. I can tolerate uncertainty. I can tolerate imperfection. I can tolerate delayed reward. I can remain on the world. So you may not need a better productivity system. You may need a clearer definition of what deserves your best attention. Your brain may actually prefer quick completion. Your emotions may prefer immediate relief. Your notifications may prefer constant access. Other people may prefer instant responses. But fruitfulness asks what matters. Your brain can reward completion without asking whether what you completed was important. Emotional intelligence asks, what feeling is influencing my choice? And then scripture asks us, Am I working the land God has placed in front of me? And Nehemiah gives us the response, I am carrying on a great work. I cannot come down. So the next time something tries to pull you away from the work that matters, ask, is this important or is it simply easier? Is this necessary or is it or is this giving me relief? Am I being productive or am I productively procrastinating? Busy measures activity. Productive measures output. Fruitful asks, what did this actually produce? You do not need to become busier. What you need is to become clear about what deserves your attention. So, work your land. Stay on the wall and give the work that matters enough attention to bear fruit. So, if this episode has made you realize that some of your busyness may actually
Your Challenge and Closing
Speakerbe keeping you away from the work that actually matters, don't just move on to the next thing. Choose one meaningful task and do something with what you've heard. So, if Lead To Excel Podcast is really helping you think differently about your brain, about your emotions, and the way you live? Make sure you subscribe or follow the Podcast so you don't miss the next episode and share this with somebody who is always busy, but perhaps needs to ask, Am I actually being fruitful? If you're watching on YouTube, I'd love to hear from you in the comments. What keeps bringing you down from your wall? Is it email? Your phone? Perfectionism, fear, other people's priorities? Name it. Because awareness is where change begins. And if the platform you're listening on allows ratings or reviews, leaving one helps more people discover Lead To Excel Podcast. If you have my book, Rewire Your Brain with Neuroscience and Scripture Everyday, go back to day 238, Busy versus Productive, Avoiding Productive Procrastination. Identify your three productive distractions, choose one meaningful task and complete it before the lower priority work takes over. And if you have the companion workbook, work through day 238 and don't simply write the answers. Use it to examine not only what is distracting you, but what emotion that distraction may be helping you avoid. Then take action because insight is only the beginning. Practice is actually where change happens. I'm Maureen Chiana, host on Lead to Excel Podcast. Until next time, think better, live bolder, transform daily, and keep soaring higher. Have a wonderful, blessed rest of your week. See you in the next episode. Bye for now.